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		<title>By: Bonnie Parrish-Kell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie Parrish-Kell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone&#039;s heard the jokes about attorneys - they make the easiest things the most convoluted nonsense one&#039;s ever tried to read.

For decades, PR professionals and lawyers have been at odds with each other. One wants to communicate. The other advocates silence. As consumers, shareholders, stakeholders, other audiences and regular plain ol&#039; folks want and expect greater authenticity and transparency from companies, organizations and agencies, the tension between PR pros and attorneys will become even more strained.

I agree with Pete on all counts. It&#039;s especially frustrating to be second-guessed or discounted by the very person who sought and hired you. Then it&#039;s up to us to decide if the client is worth the hassle and personal frustration a.k.a. is the money worth it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone&#8217;s heard the jokes about attorneys &#8211; they make the easiest things the most convoluted nonsense one&#8217;s ever tried to read.</p>
<p>For decades, PR professionals and lawyers have been at odds with each other. One wants to communicate. The other advocates silence. As consumers, shareholders, stakeholders, other audiences and regular plain ol&#8217; folks want and expect greater authenticity and transparency from companies, organizations and agencies, the tension between PR pros and attorneys will become even more strained.</p>
<p>I agree with Pete on all counts. It&#8217;s especially frustrating to be second-guessed or discounted by the very person who sought and hired you. Then it&#8217;s up to us to decide if the client is worth the hassle and personal frustration a.k.a. is the money worth it?</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Codella, APR</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Codella, APR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expected to get some pushback with regards to the process for receiving an APR versus passing the bar exam. Thanks for the dialog.

I agree, being an attorney takes more perseverance in school and a whole lot of book smarts and studying to pass the bar exam.

I also agree the APR exam is not quite on par with a bar exam. But it’s the best we PR folk can do. Our profession is not, and hopefully will not ever be, regulated (back to my previous First Amendment comment).

Doctors and attorneys pass a state administered test that serves to set the bar (pun intended) for the profession.

The APR is a distinction that sets the bar in public relations practice. It says, in essence, “Hey, CEO, you should listen to my communication counsel. I’ve been around the block and am an experienced, professional communicator. Even if you disagree with me and ultimately disregard my counsel, what I have to say is as important as any of your other professional advisors.”

My point is: an attorney’s credentials shouldn’t trump a public relations practitioner’s credentials, especially when it comes to preparing content for a press kit.

How many instances have you heard of where an attorney was told his or her patent application would instead be submitted by the company’s public relations person?

We’re talking about different skill sets.

An attorney, of course, should be involved in a company’s messaging and provide counsel from a legal perspective.

In the same vein, a public relations practitioner ought to be involved (in my book, he or she ought to have the final say) in development of a company’s press kit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expected to get some pushback with regards to the process for receiving an APR versus passing the bar exam. Thanks for the dialog.</p>
<p>I agree, being an attorney takes more perseverance in school and a whole lot of book smarts and studying to pass the bar exam.</p>
<p>I also agree the APR exam is not quite on par with a bar exam. But it’s the best we PR folk can do. Our profession is not, and hopefully will not ever be, regulated (back to my previous First Amendment comment).</p>
<p>Doctors and attorneys pass a state administered test that serves to set the bar (pun intended) for the profession.</p>
<p>The APR is a distinction that sets the bar in public relations practice. It says, in essence, “Hey, CEO, you should listen to my communication counsel. I’ve been around the block and am an experienced, professional communicator. Even if you disagree with me and ultimately disregard my counsel, what I have to say is as important as any of your other professional advisors.”</p>
<p>My point is: an attorney’s credentials shouldn’t trump a public relations practitioner’s credentials, especially when it comes to preparing content for a press kit.</p>
<p>How many instances have you heard of where an attorney was told his or her patent application would instead be submitted by the company’s public relations person?</p>
<p>We’re talking about different skill sets.</p>
<p>An attorney, of course, should be involved in a company’s messaging and provide counsel from a legal perspective.</p>
<p>In the same vein, a public relations practitioner ought to be involved (in my book, he or she ought to have the final say) in development of a company’s press kit.</p>
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		<title>By: Howard Roitman</title>
		<link>http://petecodella.com/public-relations-professionals-versus-legal-professionals-1000327.htm#comment-19</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard Roitman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 17:16:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You’re messin with the priesthood buddy.  When they give you the law license they give you the power of mumbo jumbo.  It elevates you to an ethereal plain that others can’t enter.  Even the guys with the money who we work for.

I have some medical problems with my legs (and other stuff).  At Mayo the docs told me I had idio pathatc peripheral neuropathy, later at the Cleveland Clinic, I was told I had Crypto pathic peripheral neuropathy.  Boy are these guys smart, and how in the world did they make the subtle diagnostic distinction between Crypto and Idiopathic peripheral neuropathy.

The subtle distinction of course is that one is Greek and the other Latin for unexplained leg pain.  --- And you really think you can do the same thing as the Lawyers.  Good lord where are your respect and good sense man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You’re messin with the priesthood buddy.  When they give you the law license they give you the power of mumbo jumbo.  It elevates you to an ethereal plain that others can’t enter.  Even the guys with the money who we work for.</p>
<p>I have some medical problems with my legs (and other stuff).  At Mayo the docs told me I had idio pathatc peripheral neuropathy, later at the Cleveland Clinic, I was told I had Crypto pathic peripheral neuropathy.  Boy are these guys smart, and how in the world did they make the subtle diagnostic distinction between Crypto and Idiopathic peripheral neuropathy.</p>
<p>The subtle distinction of course is that one is Greek and the other Latin for unexplained leg pain.  &#8212; And you really think you can do the same thing as the Lawyers.  Good lord where are your respect and good sense man.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Conrad</title>
		<link>http://petecodella.com/public-relations-professionals-versus-legal-professionals-1000327.htm#comment-18</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Conrad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:15:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the disparity is real, I don&#039;t believe an APR is anywhere near the equivalent of being an attorney. Law school and the bar exam are far more thorough and technical than the APR. Technically a bachelor&#039;s degree and a few years experience is all that&#039;s needed for an APR; law school is in no way comparable. I received my APR having never taken a single class in public relations, for example.

That said, executives ignore both legal and PR counsel at their own peril.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the disparity is real, I don&#8217;t believe an APR is anywhere near the equivalent of being an attorney. Law school and the bar exam are far more thorough and technical than the APR. Technically a bachelor&#8217;s degree and a few years experience is all that&#8217;s needed for an APR; law school is in no way comparable. I received my APR having never taken a single class in public relations, for example.</p>
<p>That said, executives ignore both legal and PR counsel at their own peril.</p>
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